Real Talk About Educator Burnout

A podcast featuring real conversations about educator wellness, retention, and the future of education

EP02: When Loving Teaching Isn’t Enough: Lisa McMorris on Burnout and Boundaries

Published on: 28/09/2026

In this episode of Real Talk About Educator Burnout, Lisa joins Lori Herman to reflect on what changed and why she chose to retire earlier than planned.

EP01: Why Educator Burnout Needs a Systems Response

Published on: 28/09/2026

Mary and Lori talk candidly about the pressure to stay late, take on more, and treat burnout as a personal problem to solve with better self-care.

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Published on: 08/09/2026

Welcome to Real Talk about Educator Burnout, presented by Willow Tree Wellness. We're Mary Abbott, Megan Jones, and Lori Herman, school social workers and education leaders with more than seventy-five years of combined experience working in schools.

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